Carl Sinclair is not able to participate in tonight’s hangout. In his absence, John Ward will be playing the part of host for tonight’s show. Viewers are encouraged to post their conspiracy theories and explanations with the real reason for Carl’s absence as a comment on this post.
We have some good topics lined up and hopefully we’ll have some good back and forth during the show.
I am not as talented at multi-tasking as Carl (remember to leave a comment detailing your theory regarding his absence); so, instead of posting links to the stories during the show, the way Carl does, I’m sharing them all with you now.
Here are the stories we’ll cover tonight:
1. J. A. Konrath‘s Serialization Experience: http://jakonrath.blogspot.com/2013/09/guest-post-by-david-haywood-young.html
The relevant portion is at the bottom of this post where he speaks about releasing a serialized book with his son.
2. Somebody Call Edward Robertson. Stat!
Amazon Data Chart: http://brucerousseau.com/AmazonData.html
This is a great chart compiled by Bruce Rousseau. It collects price point, publishing entity (traditional publisher, small press, or self-published), number of pages and sales rank. Then, it breaks this information out by genre. If you’re into data mining, you’ll really enjoy this chart.
3. Nathan Lowell‘s Advertising Experiment: https://plus.google.com/u/0/109952403888787261893/posts/iPKoi9sxxZe
Nathan Lowell, author of the Solar Clipper series, recently ran his very first ad for the series. It’s about time, since he is getting ready release the sixth book in the series. He has done a great job documenting his sales rank for each book before the ads ran, explaining his goals for the ad buy, and providing some thoughts on his results.
4. Howey does HuffPo: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/hugh-howey/self-publish_b_3920534.html
Hugh Howey writes a great article that looks into the question of exactly what motivates him to be a writer. What motivates you?
5. Franzen’s Apocalyptic Visions: http://publishingperspectives.com/2013/09/franzen-says-amazon-presages-the-apocalypse/
Lots of fun stuff here. I need to save it for the show though.
6. Howey‘s 10 Tips for Indies: http://publishingperspectives.com/2013/09/10-counterintuitive-tips-for-self-publishers/
Ever see those End User License Agreements that you have to accept before they let you do anything online? When an author signs up for a social networking site, they should make him go read this article and agree to abide by the terms set forth in this article.
7. Franzen vs. Howey: Compare and Contrast: This segment will consist of our half-formed opinions and whatever nonsense we’re able to come up with on the spot.
Is it wrong that I found Hugh Howey’s tips to be not even remotely counterintuitive?
Carl is unable to do the show tonight because he double booked himself, he’s unable to pull out of the Drag show for his adoring wealthy fandom in Perth. I bet he does a killer Cher! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g72X49ToYvM
My Top Five Guesses Why Carl Won’t Be On The Show Tonight:
5. He’s at a One Direction concert.
4. He’s being held in Dave’s basement.
3. He was abducted by aliens.
2. He’s in prison (let’s face it – it was just a matter of time.)
1. He’s in the hospital getting the operation he’s been planning for. “Carla” Sinclair will debut on the show next week.
BuddyGott Prison… because he keeps bitching about his internet. Doesn’t he know the politicians get kick backs for that stuff?
We’ll be starting in a minute, folks.
Carl is too busy stalking the girls who listen to the show . . . he’s possibly right behind you. Behind you! đ
Eric Guindon If I wasn’t trying really really hard to be a good girl, I might have to take that bait and say something naughty. Let’s just pretend I did, and you laugh.
The youtube embeddening didn’t really work.
csjameson Eric Guindon If you’re going to be a good girl tonight, a lot of us will probably leave.
gregorylynn They’re probably working on it now. I hope.
BuddyGott csjameson Eric Guindon Fine, I’ll say it what I was thinking. “Carl can get behind me any time.”
There. ::facedesk::
My theory as to why Carl is missing from today’s show- John kidnapped him and is holding him for ransom. That’s why he’s really telling viewers to bring twenties to the show. (I can read the sub-text)
My theory is, he just doesn’t like any of you.
Carl Sinclair No, that can’t be it.
gregorylynn It’s all stuff we’ve heard before because we’re the writers who’ve been listening to shows like this and reading articles like that from the start. I think it might be counterintuitive to someone coming in fresh.
Carl Sinclair I doubt the validity in that statement Clone Carl.
Carl Sinclair Yeah, that’s completely unrealistic- pfft- I mean try to keep it real here, right?
Howdy.
sryeager Howdy.
sryeager Howdee do
Hey folks, can anyone see the embedded video? If not, click over and hear the audio from YouTube while commenting here.
Live event: over before it began đ
jlward I see the link, but it doesn’t work.
jlward I can’t see the embed.
Guess they’re all dead.
Nicholas Kahler jlward I can’t see it either, but the blindfold I’m wearing may have something to do with that.
Carl is haunting the hangout. O-O And causing tech issues. O-O
maryeihla I hope not. Some of them owe me money.
jlward Even the YouTube side says the event is over. đ
Trish McCallan I think you’re vastly over estimating the roundtable abilities. They’re probably all drunk.
Carl is fighting to take control over the podcast again. There’s a coup afoot!
Nicholas Kahler Trish McCallan I don’t think John does that….::gasp::…but if there were ever an occasion…Roundtable would be one of them. LOL!
Eric Guindon I don’t think there would be much of a fight. If anything they’re fighting to get rid of it.
Over 30 comments and they haven’t even started yet. Wow.
We can all hold hands and sing Kumbaya.
BuddyGott Seems we’re more productive than they are đ
BuddyGott That’s because we’re awesome and for some reason need an excuse to chat for hours on end. It’s like Cheers – but only on Thursdays.
csjameson BuddyGott WE are the new Must-See-TV.
maryeihla Someone’s dying Lord, Kumbaya. Someone’s dying Lord, Kumbaya. Someone’s dying….::head gets chopped off::
maryeihla That would be awesome. I haven’t sung that one since this morning.
Maybe this is a sociology experiment?
csjameson Well, it said the event is no longer live.
BuddyGott maryeihla We could also sing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMX8ZRKVcN0
maryeihla csjameson You mean no longer living. đ
Yay! Live!
Eric Guindon If it is, are we winning?
BuddyGott It is?
gregorylynn BuddyGotthttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jeJIN7C6e5U&feature=youtu.be
BuddyGott Where?
You can watch directly on youtube. John couldn’t figure out how to get it to embed into the post.
Loudest. Typing. Ever.
Carl grants YouTube certain ‘favors’ in exchange for successful broadcasts.
Eric Guindon gregorylynn BuddyGott Thanks
Nicholas Kahler Ick
Eric Guindon SORRY!
A hundred copies for a teenage author isn’t bad!
OK if you refresh the inbedding should be working in the post now.
If you refresh the page.
For the record, there’s a serial by Seanan McGuire called Indexing, the latest episode of which convinced me that it is not only very good, but bloody frikkin’ brilliant.
It has also convinced me I don’t like serials.
Lower third, Dave! Let’s see that long bar!
Carl Sinclair Inbedding?
BuddyGott I’m still a little short of 100 sales, so I guess it’s a matter of perspective.
BuddyGott Carl Sinclair Incestuous inbedding.
And we’re down again
crissymoss BuddyGott /agreed
New theory- the hosts just wanted to rack up the most comments EVER record.
Nicholas Kahler That’s what she said.
csjameson Just you, I think.
BuddyGott Nicholas Kahler Awww snap, Buddy Gott in the house!
csjameson Looks good from here. And the webcast is working too. đ
crissymoss I got the post working on the site. You can refresh this page and watch it directly now.
gregorylynn Eric Guindon BuddyGott It’s imbedded on the page correctly now.
I <3 You Ward !!111
Please send help… Dave isn’t watching, but I managed to get hold of his Nexus 7…. I’m in the basement… please help…
Carl Sinclair Carl Sinclair – Never to be seen again! NO ONE leaves that basement.
Carl Sinclair No Carl… you don’t understand. He _wanted_ you to find that tablet. Let the games begin…
BuddyGott Carl Sinclair Please Buddy… help
Nicholas Kahler Carl Sinclair Oh Dear Lords of Kobol…
It rather suggests that there’s room to increase price by a buck or two while maintaining the price advantage.
Carl Sinclair BuddyGott First, I need more repsect. Let’s go with “Mr. Gott” instead of “Buddy.”
Eat a dick Bill, eat a dick.
BuddyGott Carl Sinclair Please Mr Gott.
BuddyGott Carl Sinclair I like the way you think, sir.
Carl Sinclair Tasty.
billdowis Carl Sinclair Spotted
Who is this Hugh Howey everyone keeps talking about? You would think he would be selling the odd book here and there due to the amount of coverage he gets.
csjameson billdowis Carl Sinclair Writhing.
csjameson billdowis Carl Sinclair His dick has spots on it?
BuddyGott csjameson billdowis Carl Sinclair That’s what I hear
That’s the kind of problem you want to have.
Just because Dave has the hair of a millionaire, doesn’t mean he’s really a millionaire.
BuddyGott Dave “Millionaire Hair” Wright
billdowis I so love you right now….I had a similar conversation with somebody the other day using that exact analogy
We can do it both ways!
csjameson Millionaire Hair can have it any way he wants?
csjameson Um…..
Nicholas Kahler csjameson Zactly
That was on my 16th birthday.
csjameson I love you! You know just the right thing to say.
crissymoss csjameson I have all the right moves too.
csjameson And this is why we love you.
BuddyGott csjameson Because I’m adorballs! đ
BuddyGott Don’t listen to them, Gott. Pimpin’ ain’t easy.
Dammit, you’re right! I’ll never be a farmer đ What was I thinking?
Eric Guindon I was a farmer… not fun
Eric Guindon well, sorta
crissymoss Eric Guindon Gold farming on WoW doesn’t count crissy. =P
Nicholas Kahler crissymoss Eric Guindon I just worked the AH
Young Adult’s a bit of a hard sell with self-publishing anyway, so that’s a double whammy combining YA with serialization.
Trish McCallan You said double whammy ::chuckles::
csjameson Nicholas Kahler crissymoss Eric Guindon I may have dabbled in working the AH as well.
csjameson Nicholas Kahler crissymoss Eric Guindon I drove by a farm once.
Trish McCallan I love that Trish is the ‘straight man’ of the commenting group. You’re our anchor McCallan. =)
Zen Pencils is completely fucking awesome.
Three cheers for John running all this tonight. Thamks man
Nicholas Kahler Trish McCallan She holds up the Halo, so we can roll around in our depravity.
Carl Sinclair He’s the best host they’ve ever had.
csjameson Nicholas Kahler Trish McCallan It’s so deep that some of us have to swim.
Tell us more, Trish.
Nicholas Kahler csjameson Trish McCallan Just let go.
Franzen is the antichrist.
Writing while working full time is tough, but definitely the smartest way to go about it. It really tests why you’re doing the art you’re doing. If you’re doing it for the money, you’ll peter out before you’ve put in the time and effort. If you do it for the love, it won’t matter how long it takes – stopping isn’t an option.
He’s a pretentious douchenozzle.
BuddyGott I was gonna say d-bag, but hey…
gregorylynn With peer approval….::blech::
shroudbetween I also do it with the hope that some day writing will be my career. It’s what I love, and I want to do it as my job, not working for someone else.
The chart is a perfect snap shot of the romance kindle store, for the past eight months or so. I track those books every day. So the romance chart is accurate.
What up, people?
thedavidwwright You?
thedavidwwright Mr Wright, may I leave the dungeon to goto the bathroom?
I’ve hated Franzen since he crapped all over my Aunt Oprah.
thedavidwwright the love meter on your haircut?
csjameson gregorylynn From other pretentious douchenozzles.
Carl – go in your pants, like usual.
Trish McCallan You have data and made charts? I love you.
crissymoss shroudbetween You and me both. I’ve been releasing serials while working full time, and now I have a newborn to snuggle. OHDEARGODTHESNUGGLES! But, I have to get in a least a few hundred words any chance I get, or my brain starts to explode.
Nicholas Kahler Trish McCallan Trish can’t listen and follow all the comments. LOL I need to learn how to multi-task.
shroudbetween crissymoss I want it to be my job as well. But I gotta pay the bills and fit it in when I can.
thedavidwwright Yes sir
Critics are hit and miss.
Trish McCallan Are you going to post the results of your analyses somewhere?
Eric Guindon Sometimes you hit em and sometimes you miss them
The Host was the best movie I watched this week…. it was amazing!Â
Disclaimer: This comment was forced upon me by David Wright. In reality, it was awful.
EvieBRomance Trish McCallan I don’t do charts, I just track the books every day- watch what price tags are selling, and how well various price tags are selling. For example now you can reach the front page of the top 100 in the romance genre as an unknown author at 3.99- where a year ago you wouldn’t reach it at 3.99, but could at 2.99. The store constantly changes.
At the end of the day, serving consumers will dictate where the money goes. Amazon is winning. That won’t always be true.
If I had a son instead of three daughters, he’d be Dave.
Amazon didn’t start out with a gagillion dollars.
Nicholas Kahler I agree. Amazon is just the current head of the food chain. It could be anyone, from a Netflix type app to Google. Who knows.
maryeihla So what you’re saying is Dave is like your three daughters in one. I always knew he was really a girl.
csjameson maryeihla If this were a game of telephone, it would end with Dave putting your children in jeopardy… in a book.
I don’t think David Gaughran was referring to search results, but the front page of the store. Or, I could be wrong.
The thoughts of David Wright regarding Barnes & Noble being an abomination, do not reflect those of the rest of who don’t want to get sued.
Trish McCallan Neat. Do you also break it down by genre? Say for Adult romance look at Paranormal versus historical vs. contemporary?
Carl Sinclair So the opinion about Franzen being a douche canoe is totally true?
Nicholas Kahler Carl Sinclair Well… that’s different.
billdowis I go to BN too. NO SHAME!
Nicholas Kahler csjameson The oldest is 43 and the youngest 37, and all three were in the military, so that would be tough!
I have never been to Barnes & Noble. Just putting that out there.
maryeihla Nicholas Kahler csjameson Dave’s hatred for humanity knows no bounds… it just makes the story better. đ
csjameson billdowis I could live in there. I am surprised my bank account still has money in it.
Carl Sinclair In other words….it’s another store you’ve been banned from entering, huh?
Carl Sinclair Do they even have them in Australia?
crissymoss Carl Sinclair Nope.
billdowis csjameson I buy a lot of journals there. And writing books. Things that I can’t get at the library that I’d rather keep.  I wander all the time there.
BuddyGott Carl Sinclair Ya Carl, you’re not suppose to do that in the art section. Naked paintings or not.
EvieBRomance Trish McCallan Mostly just the romantic suspense/thriller and paranormal since those are the genres I’m interested in writing in. Although I do follow the contemporary sub-genre a bit and it’s the most popular of the sub-genres right now.
BuddyGott Carl Sinclair I am going to come to your shop and steal. Let’s see who wins.
I DON’T WANT MY CREDIT CARD NUMBER ON THE TUBES!!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh hey, Rays lose. Yayyyy
Anyone else want to come to Starbucks with me, bring your guns. I don’t follow rules!
Carl Sinclair Caramel Frap pleaze!
The only time I spend any longer than 30 minutes at a B&N is either for a book signing, or because I’m reading a book while waiting for a friend to get off of work.
Carl Sinclair Never been to a Starbucks in my life.
csjameson Carl Sinclair That’s my drink too! Venti for me, please!
gregorylynn Carl Sinclair Well here is your chance.
BuddyGott csjameson Carl Sinclair Venti is not a measurement!
Amazon likes to touch me.
Trish McCallan Smart idea! My RWA chapter had a publisher in to talk once and I was surprised on what ‘little’ data they collect and use to make their decisions.  I’ve never seen a business so unstructured and illogical (if I can speak Spock terms?)
Carl Sinclair That makes two of us
Because Barnes and Noble sucks and is run by people with limited imagination who, when faced with an innovative competitor, decided to get away from their core business.
In Barnes & Noble’s defense, I’ve never seen any of their employees lick their fingers.
Carl Sinclair How do you maintain that moderator tag? =P
gregorylynn so, like the publishing industry?
Next week on SPRT: The Hugh Howey Show.
Carl Sinclair We should SPRT all over everyone’s show.
gregorylynn In their defense, most big businesses have this same level of detachment.
I will just save you the hour for next week. Here is what he is up too:
http://www.hughhowey.com/a-busy-week/
Carl Sinclair BuddyGott csjameson Means 20. 20 ounces. It is a measurement, technically…
YAY! thedavidwwright you gave me a new marketing idea
csjameson thedavidwwright ?
G+ is way better than FB. What does HH know about anything?
Carl Sinclair I like G+ but let’s face it – nowhere near as many people of there than Facebook.
http://bestsellerlabs.com/hugh-howeys-clever-book-promotion/
Follow up to the Hugh Howey USB story from a couple of weeks ago.
Carl Sinclair Agreed! The more I’m using it, the more I like G+
BuddyGott Carl Sinclair …that’s why I like it, actually.
crissymoss csjameson thedavidwwright Wait, the other day you were self conscious about having your butt on the tubes and now you’re going to read stuff naked?
shroudbetween BuddyGott Carl Sinclair More authors talking about writing though. FB is just everyone about everything.
crissymoss csjameson thedavidwwright Yeah! NAKED READS!
EvieBRomance Trish McCallan Illogical is a perfect term for many of the traditional houses. LOL I think it’s really interesting too, that almost all of Amazon’s own imprints (unless they are a huge name author) are priced in the 2.99-4.99 range, which is also the price range the Smashwords report said was the best selling price points and the price points that made the most money. With all of Amazon’s data mining in the store, I think that’s a huge point to consider.
BuddyGott Carl Sinclair I’m going to smack you silly for saying so!!!!!!  G+ is the second most popular social network….and they did that in less than two years. It took Facebook ten!
@John –Â http://bestsellerlabs.com/hugh-howeys-clever-book-promotion/
I have bought many more books from authors I feel I’ve gotten to know as a person, and absolutely none from those who constantly promote themselves and their products.
I think Goodreads was designed to be confusing.
Google should just buy everything. It will be much easier.
I’m just starting to really get into Goodreads.
gregorylynn I agree.
gregorylynn I find goodreads easy. I like it, as a reader and author.
I like how I can name the circles on G+. For instance, most of you are in my PEOPLE I LIKE MORE THAN CARL SINCLAIR circle.
shroudbetween I’m using GR a lot more now, too.
BuddyGott Which just contains you.
COME ON! GUYS….it’s G+ is AMAZEBALLS
You need to change your perception a bit from what you THINK about social networking. G+ is a social PLATFORM that encourages networking. It isn’t a social networking piece of tech. There is a curve, but it’s SO worth it.
Carl Sinclair BuddyGott Kidding. You know I love you. You’re like Australian brother I never had.
csjameson It’s true. The Circle management makes it stand out. You can target certain groups for certain things. FB can’t do that.
csjameson It’s a quantity vs. quality argument right now. People will figure it out.
Carl Sinclair csjameson It does, it’s just antiquated. G+ makes it easy.
As for social sites, I’m surprised you guys aren’t on http://www.kboards.com  You can put your book covers in your signature line and whenever you post general opinions/comments/jokes, people can see what you’ve written without coming across as spammy
I have a theory-
Carl went to watch STP and read RK, which is why he couldn’t be bothered showing up live.
The only thing Livefyre is missing is the ability to collapse threads…
sryeager shroudbetween Joanna’s podcast about it was super interesting.
crissymoss or entire people…
Nicholas Kahler crissymoss Or make coffee.
crissymoss You can collapse the threads… there is a – sign for it.
Nicholas Kahler crissymoss who would you want to collaps?
Carl Sinclair Nicholas Kahler crissymoss and breakfast.
Nicholas Kahler crissymoss Great…he wants to deflate all the dolls.
crissymoss Nicholas Kahler Buddy for a start.
shroudbetween Carl Sinclair Nicholas Kahler crissymoss or blowjobs
Eric Guindon crissymoss I don’t see it.
Carl Sinclair By the way, that Starbucks parody story you were posting about on twitter sounds like it’ll be cool.  Will it be out soon?
Eric Guindon crissymoss FOUND IT
Carl Sinclair crissymoss Nicholas Kahler Thank God my webcam isn’t on and you can’t see me crying now.
Carl Sinclair shroudbetween Nicholas Kahler crissymoss YAY! ::looks around the room excitedly:: You first Crissy!
I have authors on my loops who are certain that B&N scews their lists. For a while it looks like there was some kind of a trigger when you hit 115 in the store if you were an unknown/self-pubbed author. No matter how much you sold, many self-pubbed titles(particularly erotica and YA)Â could nt drop lower. They were hitting the USA today and NYT’s lists, while traditionally published books below them weren’t, but they couldn’t get below 115. A couple were banding together to start a class action lawsuit.
RemarkableReads Carl Sinclair Who said it was a parody? Gonna knock it up this afternoon.
RemarkableReads Post it on my site once my internet is back up.
crissymoss Eric Guindon It collapses all replies to a post
Carl Sinclair shroudbetween Nicholas Kahler crissymoss Moderator…?
Nicholas Kahler Carl Sinclair shroudbetween crissymoss I’m not about to stop them from freedom of choice.
You can hit the top 100 of barnes and noble with a half decent Bookbub promo. Â I saw someone with 900 sales get to number 9 overall. Â 900 sales on Amazon wouldn’t even crack the top 100
crissymoss Nicholas Kahler Is that an offer? đ
Carl Sinclair Nicholas Kahler shroudbetween crissymoss Don’t hate the player, hate the game.
RemarkableReads B&N still edit/maintain their lists artificially though.
RemarkableReads Like people have said they have been held back depending on the title. With proof.
Carl Sinclair RemarkableReads Maybe I read it wrong (teaches me to browse the internet at work).  Either way, it sounded good.
Another reason New Zealand is more awesome than you:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NcOSs6GP9M
Carl Sinclair RemarkableReads They don’t like erotica at B&N in the top 100 for sure.
Carl Sinclair I love these!
Bookbub is epix
The bad thing is, I think, that had he just done nothing, his normal baseline sales would have brought in more money.
I think what it suggests is that the marketing things that work for relatively small sellers is not going to work with folks that have a much higher baseline of sales.
Another last story?
Is there a comparison?
There are a couple of other ways to sell a few more books. Â I wrote a post on it the other day: Â http://ebookmarketingpodcast.blogspot.com/
RemarkableReads Bookbubs is amazing, but I think the days of the huge sales is going to be over soon, now that they are chopping their lists into so many sub-genres. Which is a shame. No a RS can only go in the RS category which only has 67K subscribes, rather than the contemporary romance list which has 400+ subscribes. Very sad to see how they are chopping everything up. The recent BB results have gone way, way down.
RemarkableReads selfpromo for the win! ; )
Trish McCallan RemarkableReads Good comment Trish
Carl Sinclair Hey, leave me alone. I’m juggling two computers and hand-written posts.
Trish McCallan RemarkableReads If you’re in one of the chopped up categories yes, but there are still some categories that have been left the same and I’m still seeing some good results in those categories.
You know what Chuck Wendig says? “Art harder, motherfucers.”
Comparison: Hugh Howey once lived in Virginia. Jonathan Franzen’s ego is as big as Virginia.
What kind of cereal did you guys try sell?
gregorylynn Chuck is better than most people though.
BuddyGott Hugh Howey should be President. Just saying.
Carl Sinclair Frosted Bung Holes
Carl Sinclair gregorylynn Chuck is awesome. He has the funny.
Trish McCallan RemarkableReads Here’s a thread with some recent results:  http://www.kboards.com/index.php/topic,130094.1175.html
csjameson Carl Sinclair Those sound… awful.
That’s it Wright, keep talking. I’m putting you family in danger while you make jokes.
Nicholas Kahler csjameson Carl Sinclair Pirates love them
Dave, tell us how you really feel about Author Marketing Club
csjameson Nicholas Kahler Carl Sinclair Someone should write a story about authors stalking Hugh Howey.
csjameson Nicholas Kahler Carl Sinclair I’m waiting for Carl-O’s to come to the USA.
RemarkableReads Trish McCallan Yes, like if you are in the contemporary romance or straight thriller. But it used to be a Romantic Suspense/ or Romantic thriller ads could hit the USA today and NYT’s now it barely covers the price of the ad, which is reduced because of the number of subscribers.
Carl Sinclair csjameson Nicholas Kahler That would be your biography
Cheers, take care everyone đ
Great show guys. Awesome job John!
Does anyone want to do a post show?
Good job, guys.
Eric Guindon Seee ya.
RemarkableReads Not Author Marketing Club.
jlward Invite me on for a couple.
Great show!
jlward YES!
jlward I’m always up for that.
jlward Yep!
csjameson jlward I’m just always up.
jlward Yes, but I need to comb my hair first.
thedavidwwright RemarkableReads Now I feel stumped.
jlward Sorry, I’m high on Nyquill and the fumes from a Menthol-laced humidifier. Bed is calling.
shroudbetween jlward are you on G+?
Nicholas Kahler jlward Awww, I’m sorry you sick sweetheart. Take care of yourself.
csjameson Nicholas Kahler jlward It’ll all be over soon. Thanks. =)
Carl Sinclair csjameson jlward We could be effing twins you know that? You’re like my male persaonlity doppleganger
Seven more for 300 comments!
Carl Sinclair RemarkableReads I’ll be happy to promote your book when it’s out.  Just let me know and I’ll tweet it out @remarkablereads
RemarkableReads Carl Sinclair I was kidding : )
BLHA BLAH BLAH
RemarkableReads Trish McCallan Yeah, I’m following that thread. Are you on the IndieromanceInk link? There have been alot of poor BB results posted there, these authors aren’t on the KBoards.
Carl Sinclair Cheap ploy, Sinclair. Especially since you didn’t bother hosting your own show just to bump the comment count.
Nicholas Kahler Carl Sinclair Meh.
Trish McCallan RemarkableReads I’m sorry to hear about that.  The way I see bookbub, if I can break even and get introduced to new eyeballs, it’s worth it still.
jlward shroudbetween I am, but can’t actually be IN the call at this exact moment due to screaming baby in the same room as my computer =P I’d like to watch and listen and type comments tho if that’s a possibility.
Carl Sinclair RemarkableReads Isn’t everyone kidding in the comment section? Sarcasm rules the internet
jlward shroudbetween plus.google.com/113725923767413036382/posts
Carl Sinclair Nicholas Kahler Nothing can compare to Sinclair.  Are we at 300 yet?
There’s a reason Shanghai is a verb.
RemarkableReads Trish McCallan Right now, it might still be worth it. But how long before they chop their lists up so much there isn’t enough subscribers to get the kind of sales you need to break even. Some of the latest ads have just barely squeaked past. It’s going to be interesting to see how popular they are in the next few months.
RemarkableReads thedavidwwright AMC actually provides tools you can use. I’m talking about authors who sell nebulous “help” taking advantage of people who don’t know better with overpriced “products” and “memberships” which all come off a bit sleazy to me.
csjameson gregorylynn Yep, that’s why we started late. I think the widget was having a hard time embedding it because the video wasn’t ‘live’. Even though it’s done it every week prior to last night. Eh, who knows?
Trish McCallan Yeah, I still haven’t received currency of any denomination from anyone.
sryeager Thanks for tuning in last night, Steve.
csjameson jlward We had to start a new hangout. The link you were looking at, at that time, was for the old one. Not really an issue now. Just explaining what happened.
Eric Guindon Just like our writing careers. Eh, hopefully, that’s not true.
maryeihla Wow. You went straight to morbid. And I though Dave Wright was bad.
csjameson jlward We had to start a new hangout. The link you were looking at, at that time, was for the old one. Not really an issue now. Just explaining what happened.
csjameson jlward We had to start a new hangout. The link you were looking at, at that time, was for the old one. Not really an issue now. Just explaining what happened.
Nicholas Kahler Eric Guindon Next week, Nic is hosting!
BuddyGott csjameson This comment wins the internet.
csjameson maryeihla SPRT’ing from the Other Side.
It was actually because you had text in the post before the irl was added. When i removed everything, posted in the url and updated it worked. Then i pasted your other stufd back in. Stupid widgets.
Carl Sinclair Ah. That’s good to know. Thanks.
BuddyGott You know what they say: 30 minutes or it’s free. Guess you got last night’s episode at no charge. You know the other thing they say: “You get what you pay for.”
Eric Guindon I saw this comment when I was trying to figure out how to embed the video. It made me burst out laughing. All of the other hosts were wondering what I was laughing at.
Eric Guindon Oh. I KNOW! I almost go deaf every time Crissy starts typing.
gregorylynn BuddyGott Carl Sinclair Greg, I was going to click Like for your comment because it was funny, but, then, I thought better of it because I didn’t want to be seen as advocating those type of activities.
gregorylynn SEE! I told you it was good.
Nicholas Kahler csjameson Of course it looked good. I was the host. Other words that would be appropriate: Handsome, Charming, Witty, BEST THING EVER! or any other superlative along those lines.
Trish McCallan Shh…. you’re giving away our secrets.
Nicholas Kahler Um, thanks? What did I do or say to cause you to exclaim your never ending love, devotion, and all of that stuff?
BuddyGott Carl Sinclair You guys do know that ‘the basement’ is a metaphor for a very specific position and act, right?
shroudbetween Good point.
Nicholas Kahler BuddyGott He should host a game show.
Nicholas Kahler BuddyGott Especially when you have to pimp Buddy Gott.
You did a stand up job. I owe you a cookie.
Nicholas Kahler csjameson Trish McCallan If some of you have to swim, Cyndi must be wearing scuba gear.
shroudbetween crissymoss Balancing work and kids is really tough. The newborn stage is hard, but, once they become toddlers, it’s really rough. Then, they start school and things get better. At least that’s been my experience.
Trish McCallan EvieBRomance We should have all of the hosts stay home one week and just have Trish on to talk about her observations regarding Amazon data for an hour.
Eric Guindon I think if you can find one who shares your tastes that they can provide a good service, but, I’ve had much more luck finding some friend who I know likes the same stuff as me and hearing their thoughts on a movie or book I’m thinking about enjoying.
Carl Sinclair Isn’t The Host on repeat down there in the dungeon?
Nicholas Kahler I think that’s why Amazon is always changing their algorithms, the way those algorithms work and introducing new products like Kindle Match Book. They are trying to keep the customer’s interest. The way authors do this is by coming out with the next book. You have to be like a shark– always moving. If you stop moving, you’ll die. Okay, you won’t really die, but people will forget you.
gregorylynn I’ve read articles though where he does talk about their search results. He is the one who first noticed that B&N, at the time, had a dedicated and separate list for Indie books. I haven’t checked their store in months; so, things might be different now.
Nicholas Kahler Carl Sinclair He owns the site. He can do anything he wants here. Yeah, this is one of those kind of places.
BuddyGott Good point.
shroudbetween Carl Sinclair Shroud, what is your name on G+? I’ll connect with you over there if I can find you.
Carl Sinclair Sorry. Didn’t see this during the show.
maryeihla Mary, I couldn’t agree more. I think that’s the strength of social media. It does allow you to get to know the author as a person. Does that mean you’ll become a fan? No, but, many times it does mean that you’ll give the author a chance. After that, it’s up to the work that the author has done on the book. If the book is able to captivate you, then, you become a fan; otherwise… well, then, you move on to the next book.
Eric Guindon gregorylynn I don’t understand how to use Goodreads as an author. During the Joanna Penn interview that Wade spoke about last night, the Goodreads rep even said that authors should primarily use the site as a reader.Â
I’ve tried using it, but I find the user interface to be less than ideal.
Nevermind. Thought it was interesting.
Also, no Host down here. Much worse, old episodes of STP on repeat.
Carl SinclairAnd people complain about Amazon’s monopoly. The thought of Google buying everything reminds me of that line from Lord of the Rings where Galadriel says, “In place of the http://lotr.wikia.com/wiki/Dark_Lord,
you will set up a Queen, and I shall not be dark, but beautiful and
terrible as the Morning and the Night. Fair as the Sea and the Sun and
the Snow upon the Mountain…all shall love me and despair!”
shroudbetween sryeager I did enjoy that episode of the Penncast. She should totally use that term!
Trish McCallan I’ve heard A LOT of people say the same thing about B&N.
shroudbetween jlward Sorry. I didn’t see this last night. I’ll try to get you in for the after show next week.
shroudbetween jlward Ah! I had already circled you. Just didn’t know your name.
sryeager Thanks, Steve!
gregorylynn Yeah, we watched that too. Pretty funny show. Also, it has Oz in it. A less hairy Oz, but he’s still there.
Come on, folks, only 47 more comments and we’ll hit 400 comments for the show!
I for one, welcome our google overlords.
maryeihla Mary, are you on Google+? I’d like to follow you over there if you are. Can you paste a link to your profile there as a comment here?
maryeihla Never mind. I found you on G+, Mary.
RemarkableReads Carl Sinclair Nicholas Kahler Hey Remarkable. I know I follow you on Twitter. Are you on G+?
jlward Nicholas Kahler Everyone needs groupies, John. Just go with it.