Welcome back to the Self-Publishing Roundtable.
The weekly self-publishing news podcast, for indie authors, by indie authors.
Once the show is ready to go live, we’ll edit this post to insert the video. Until then, these are the noteworthy news items we’ll be covering this episode.
Net neutrality and why is should matter to you. This has been in the news a lot lately and we’ll explain why recent developments should concern everyone. (shared by Crissy)
Preorders– Good or Bad? Preorders have long been a staple of traditional publishing and Indie authors were keen to use the service to their advantage. But more and more authors, after trying preorders, are abandoning them. We’ll talk about why. But this thread on the Kboards will give you a look at the major problem Indie authors are having with the preorder paradigm. (shared by Trish)
Brenna Aubrey and her amazing journey By now most of you have probably heard of Brenna Aubrey–the debut author who turned down a three book, $120,000 three book deal (from an auction no less) to self-publish her new adult debut At Any Price.
Brenna was called everything from a fool to a liar to a heroine. She inspired posts by Hugh Howey to Chuck Wendig Now Brenna shares her first month of sales and income. Prepare to be blown away. (shared by Trish)
A new study shows that two-thirds of the nation’s kids are reading digitally. 67% of U.S. children aged two-to-thirteen are now reading ebooks. That’s up from 54%, the number recorded in a similar study from last year. (shared by Wade)
Ingram Invests in Social Ebook Retail Start-up Librify
Taken directly from DBW “Founded in 2013, Librify is aimed at the book club market. Librify co-founder and CEO Joanna Stone describes the start-up as “Goodreads plus a book-of-the-month retail platform.” Stone will be using the money to continue to develop the Librify product, which hasn’t yet been launched, and to increase the size of its headcount, which sits at 20 right now, including an offshore team in India. The company plans on launching to the public this year. (shared by Wade)
There were several traditional authors this past week sharing their numbers and income. One of them was Lexi Revellian who writes for Harper Collins. Within hours her post had disappeared. (shared by Trish)
Hugh Howey and his agent Kristin Nelson reveal how they would run Harper Collins if they were put in charge.
The interesting thing here, is that almost everything they mention is already being done by Amazon Publishing, or at least Montlake Romance is doing it. (shared by Trish)
Hugh Howey’s look into the top selling Sci-Fi authors
in which he makes the discovery that half of the top ten are self-published. (shared by Trish)
Harper Collins teams up with Google Play to create a game that combines virtual reality with real world locations. The game is based off of a series of books written by James Frey. Google will be uploading clues to the game in YouTube videos, image searches and other ways. Additionally, Google Play has the exclusive rights to distribute the first 15 titles in the series.
Here’s a bit from the article:
In an announcement today, Niantic announced it has teamed up with publisher HarperCollins to create a location-based game for ENDGAME, a new book trilogy for young adults by bestselling authors James Frey (of A Million Little Pieces fame) and Nils Johnson-Shelton that has already been optioned by Twentieth Century Fox. Niantic will play a significant part in the interactive project, which is lovingly referred to as an “innovative omni-platform endeavor,” by developing a virtual-meets-real-world game that allows mobile users to solve virtual puzzles to advance parts of the story.
Late breaking story. 🙂
David Gaughran posted a report yesterday about a fake controversy regarding Hitler’s Mein Kampf, which a reporter had claimed was a digital bestseller. David Gaughran checked the book’s sales/rank through the KND tracker which reported less than stellar sales. But the really interesting thing is what happened in the comments. Like the reporter of the original article calling David a fraud and claiming no one could tell a book’s sales by its rank. O-O Some reporter this guy turned out to be. He doesn’t even know the basics about bestseller status. If you are looking for a good laugh check it out. 🙂
Anyone watching tonight?
Hello all!
writerwade You know it.
Hi everyone!
writerwade Both me and my child
writerwadeCount me in.
Hey guys
writerwade Let’s get this party started
shroudbetweenEllo Scott
crissymoss Evening Crissy!
Hey everyone, we are running late tonight. It was a case of everyone sitting around waiting for the invite and suddenly realizing the one who get the hangout started aren’t hear tonight. hahahhahhahhha.
crissymoss Evening, ma’am!
It’s Carl’s fault we are late.
Trish McCallan Just another day at the office.
writerwade Damn him!
writerwade obviously
writerwade Yes, it’s ALL Carl’s fault. Now we are just waiting for him to invite us into the hangout.
writerwade Hey youse guys!
xgranvilleTrish McCallan Pretty much. 🙂
BuddyGottwriterwade Greetings, all! And to all a good night!
writerwade I don’t think Carl has gotten this much ribbing in a long time. I’m not sure his ego can take it.
Refresh as the video link is now embedded.
RemarkableReadswriterwade I think we can tempt fate just this once.
RemarkableReadswriterwade Carl’s ego can take anything. At least that’s been my experience. 🙂
It’s not my fault. Dave or John host the hangout normally. I was sitting there going.. where the fuck is my invite… oh wait…
Oh. In related news John isn’t here this week.
Carl Sinclair Excuses, excuses.
Carl Sinclair Take it easy, Bad News Bears.
xgranville Carl Sinclair Waiting for the girls to accept their invites.
Carl Sinclair The hosts are dropping one by one. When are you going to give Buddy Gott his rightful opportunity to dominate the internet?
RemarkableReadsCarl Sinclair And the Buddy taketh the Interwebs.
Trish McCallan RemarkableReads writerwade are you saying he’s the wonder from down under?
RemarkableReads Carl Sinclair Haha. Ironically, I am starting up a second show starting this weekend. More on that later on. 😉
BuddyGott RemarkableReads Carl Sinclair Of course. save all the good stuff for the afterparty
RemarkableReadsBuddyGottCarl Sinclair And the plot thickens!
Carl Sinclair xgranville I have a name, thank you!
Carl Sinclair I will miss him and his scarf
Okay…. ready…
Carl Sinclair this show is so late it might as well be called the story telling podcast
RemarkableReads Carl Sinclair “Apply ointment directly to that sick burn…”
BuddyGott RemarkableReads Carl Sinclair Way to self promote on our site.
Is it too soon to miss Dave and his hedgehogginess? Maybe he’ll drop in to troll the comments
Hello! I’m late but I still caught the beginning! Ha!
<– eating dinner while I watch
melissadonovan Got here JUST in time!
RemarkableReads We can only hope.
RemarkableReads It is not. I think we should setup some sort of memorial
melissadonovan In pants?
melissadonovan I think they were actually waiting for you to show up, Melissa! 🙂
Carl Sinclair melissadonovan so soon?
Carl Sinclair melissadonovan Yes, I’m home so I’m wearing pants. I only take them off when I go to the mall in Australia.
keithallenauthor RemarkableReads I want to set up a David W Wright fan club where the members get hedgehog bobbleheads
melissadonovan Carl Sinclair I did that once. Now I can’t go back to Australia…
Evo Terra posted about a non-pants rail ride on G+
keithallenauthor Saw that. Evo is the man.
RemarkableReads maybe.
melissadonovan Carl Sinclair Bastard.
Wait. Some of you are actually wearing pants right now?
Pants are for liars and thieves.
melissadonovan Right on!
David W Wright is lurking nearby. Watch out for your souls.
I’m so glad you guys are talking about net neutrality. SO important.
thedavidwwright RemarkableReads couldn’t stay away too long, eh? Once you go Wright, you can’t go wrong
I”m starting a petition to bring Dave back.
Carl Sinclair *avoids the basement door*
BuddyGott I’m certainly not. Then again, I wasn’t when I was on the show, either.
thedavidwwrightBuddyGott It’s all starting to make sense.
It was an excellent explanation, Crissy!
melissadonovan No. He was fired for a very good reason. We do not and will not support bestia..
Sorry. I’ve said too much.
BuddyGottmelissadonovanCoffee is for sellers!
The dog can be on to fill John’s seat this week.
This net neutrality business freaks me out. I hate hate hate it.
We are days away from canceling our satellite and going straight netflix and hulu. I’ll have to read up on this deal.
Senator Al Franken (MN – yay) has worked hard to preserve net neutrality. Here’s a speech he gave in the Senate: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhwzZC7lnWM
Yep, Trish is right. It’s a way to censor the content that people can consume.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVkTmnJkAN8 – Freedom Isn’t Free!
ISPs won’t be providing “an internet connection.” It will be “a connection to sites they approve of.”
Carl Sinclair Dog bless you, sir.
Carl Sinclair AMERICA!
Those of you in other countries should take note, because this will eventually affect you as well.
I yearn for the Dave rant that would have gone with this topic.
maryeihla No doubt. Whatever US does, Canada tends to do as well.
melissadonovan I just quoted this to explain the situation to my gf. Well put, madam.
shroudbetween melissadonovan Thank you sir!
keithallenauthor I don’t think the internet could handle it.
I would’t pay for cable on principle alone.
Arts And Entertainment channel….featuring those Duck people. Yeah. Real “art” there….
Hey! The History channel is FULL of science! Ghosts, ancient aliens, crop circles. Those are FACT!
Crissy – nothing good on cable? What? AMC is awesome. HBO, and Showtime, too.
xgranville maryeihla Perhaps it will. Eventually. I’m thankful for the way that we have dealt with internet issues such as this in Australia. New Zealand tumbled to American pressure and installed all sorts of stupid laws. Australia told them to F-Off. At least most of the ISP’s did anyway.
Anytime the government tries to block a freedom, people find a way to to get what they want…prohibition anyone? Just means we’re all going to start cracking and hacking to work around whatever asinine “blocks” the man puts in place.
The Internet will rise like they did with SOPA.
keithallenauthor Wouldn’t be the first time
The old windbags in Washington have no clue how the Internet works. Their assistants do all their online activity for them.
Verizon is the company that brought the suit which the court ruled on. I sent a letter to them to tell them I was dropping their service as soon as my contract was up.
melissadonovan Sure they do. It’s a series of tubes!
SPRT people – read the hangout chat.
melissadonovan The lobbyists can be counted on ensuring everything will only get worse.
melissadonovan I’m sorry, I meant the FUCKING lobbyists.
thedavidwwright keithallenauthor David’s rants: the first thing ISPs would charge to watch!
thedavidwwright melissadonovan That’s much better.
thedavidwwright melissadonovan Don’t even get me started on lobbyists.
Note to self: Ask Garrett where the F my sweet, sweet signed copy of Wyrmspire is…
maryeihla Ya, I need to do that too.
maryeihla Also, T-Mobile is offering to pay your contract so you can get away from Verizon.
thedavidwwright melissadonovan God Bless America.
crissymoss maryeihla Hah! That’s awesome.
Carl Sinclair thedavidwwright melissadonovan In the old days maybe. Now it’s “God help America.”
Carl Sinclair thedavidwwright melissadonovan I’m considering moving to Australia and renting a room from Carl.
Carl Sinclair Yeah, come on, now.
crissymoss maryeihla Too bad T-Mobile has such shitty customer service. I love Verizon’s.
crissymoss maryeihla I’m going to share that all over my social media tomorrow. Got a link to anything about that deal with T-Mobile?
Got it
BuddyGott Carl Sinclair thedavidwwright melissadonovan Ooo! I’m coming with! We could have bunk beds! There would be so much more room for activities!
thedavidwwright I don’t subscribe to extra services. Except long enough to watch Game of Thrones, then switch it back off after the seasons over.
shroudbetween BuddyGott Carl Sinclair thedavidwwright melissadonovan Party Time in Perth! Woo hoo!
I’ll say pre-orders are a great idea, but they have to be done in a manner that works well for both the writer and readers.
Am I the only one who thinks we are entering some weird dystopian reality?
shroudbetween, you must be from the Midwest cuz you say “coming with.”
xgranville Possibly. I think pre-orders for the first book my work if you had the second one ready to go like, maybe a week later.
melissadonovan The people who started writing the first dystopian books way back in the day sure thought so, and that was how long ago?
xgranville melissadonovan It’s creepy how accurate some of them were.
maryeihla shroudbetween Nope. California! =P I’ll try to slip in more “gnarly”s so you can tell.
melissadonovan xgranville It’s all going to end up like The Beam.
melissadonovanxgranville I think if you have a good idea of where a particular science and have a good grasp of human nature, those stories will write themselves. History tends to repeat itself despite whatever new developments come into play.
melissadonovan thedavidwwright Perhaps in the post-apocalypse, people will hunt lobbyists for sport.
thedavidwwright melissadonovan You should write that book, Dave!
thedavidwwright Why wait?
thedavidwwright melissadonovan I’d like to sign up first
melissadonovan crissymoss maryeihla It’s all over the news. I’m sure it’s easy to find
xgranville melissadonovan Id say we will end up more like Ready Player One’s world than the Beam’s. The Beam is somewhat functional, at least on the surface. We are heading for a complete collapse.
Signed copies I think are better done at live events, but I think a certain level of status would need to be achieved before such signings would be worth doing.
Hugh Howey has been on fire in some of his blog posts lately. I love his pieces about self-publishing.
melissadonovan Yeah. They’re pretty awesome.
Carl Sinclairxgranvillemelissadonovan I’m rooting for Unicorn Western, myself.
Carl’s beard looks especially cool tonight.
Carl Sinclair xgranville melissadonovan I LOVE Ready Player One.
The revolution will not be televised.
Could you imagine how boring virtual cricket would be?
BuddyGott You’ve been giving him more trimming tips?
Carl Sinclair xgranville melissadonovan It will be Snow Crash / 1984 / Fahrenheit 451 / Hunger Games. That’s where we’re heading. But worse.
xgranville But it will be streamed on netflix…as long as you pay the permium
keithallenauthor Virtual curling would be virtually shitty.
keithallenauthor How could it be more boring than it is?
melissadonovan I like most of em. Sometimes I think he forgets that things that he does is skewed to the majority of indie publishers though. he is now in a totally different industry. It’s like Hugh and the big romance authors. Then the other successful people. Then the mid list etc etc.
He could essentially do anything right now and probably sell it to people.
shroudbetween BuddyGott Yeah. He’s doing good with it. For a beard with no gray in it, it still looks pretty good.
BuddyGott Thank you Buddy.
maryeihla keithallenauthor That’s the magic of virtual reality
If you fall asleep in virtual reality…do you wake up?
keithallenauthor Virtual Cricket would be epic.
BuddyGottshroudbetween Is THAT what the new podcast will be about? Buddy’s Grooming Tips: Manscaping Your Manuscript & Personal Life.
xgranville keithallenauthor Ooh! I love curling! Can’t wait for the Olympics.
keithallenauthor Virtual American Sports however.. wow.. snore fest.
xgranville BuddyGott shroudbetween Damn. You figured it out…
Carl Sinclair keithallenauthor Carl you could make everyone wear virtual pants so you don’t have to be offended by their sexy legs.
keithallenauthor If Jesus can walk on water, can he swim on land?
xgranville keithallenauthor You guys are breaking my brain…
xgranville keithallenauthor Pretty deep, Granville.
Once we go virtual, no more sports.
melissadonovan Carl Sinclair keithallenauthor Wouldn’t help. I gots more legs than a bucket of chicken
melissadonovan Noooooooooooo!!!
BuddyGott melissadonovan True fact.
melissadonovanBuddyGott As long as I have 90’s basketball reruns, I’ll be happy.
I’d totally go hybrid…for the right contract. This feels like deja vu. Wait…maybe we’re virtual now…
I don’t know if I’d do hybrid.
keithallenauthor couldn’t be as boring as REAL LIFE cricket.
xgranville melissadonovan BuddyGott Basketball is the only sport in the future dystopian virtual reality.
melissadonovan As I said. You make the best business decision every time you are asked to make one. If for some reason that was to sell some type of rights to someone, I would, if it was the best decision.
melissadonovan xgranville BuddyGott The future sounds terrible.
melissadonovan there are sports in video games.
Carl Sinclair melissadonovan I agree, that’s why I said I don’t know if I’d do it.
Listen to Carl. He’s right. Just ask him.
Also, if you’re indie and making plenty of money to live on, maybe you don’t want to blow up or get overexposed. Which band was it that wouldn’t put videos on MTV because they didn’t want that level of commercial success? NOFX?
melissadonovanCarl Sinclair I think it depends on the project. Depending on the offer and the terms, you could make a killing as long as they are guaranteeing you to make that much extra cash to make up for what you wouldn’t make independently.
melissadonovan NOFX…wow haven’t heard that name in a long time.
melissadonovan Yeah there is that too. You have to look at what your end game is. If that is making enough money to pay for the lifestyle you want. Then maybe you don’t want more. It is up to everyone to decide what works for their business.
melissadonovan xgranville BuddyGott That is FACT. Just look at Escape from L.A.
keithallenauthormelissadonovan They ended up having their music on MTV eventually though haha. Business is business when it’s business.
melissadonovan Carl Sinclair If I could make enough to live on comfortably from my self publishing alone, I’d be interested in going traditional also as a way to get my name out there more. Even though we don’t need to have our books in stores any more, it would still be kind of cool to see my books in one.
melissadonovan xgranville BuddyGott Can we also have dodgeball?
http://davidgaughran.wordpress.com/2014/01/16/fake-controversy-alert-hitlers-mein-kampf-was-not-a-digital-bestseller/#more-3050
Carl Sinclair melissadonovan I choose to live in a paper box, so my lifestyle is as bare minimum as ever.
Carl Sinclair Great post. Loved it.
Wait. You’re not going to do a full hour??? But SOME of us were here on time!
Carl Sinclair That was a disturbing turn of events.
BuddyGott I know, right? Pfft. Whatever.
I need a full hour of programming because I’m boycotting cable and I’ve already watched everything on Neflix.
melissadonovan No, no. You still need to try out Doctor Who! 😉
What’s got two thumbs and is totally “that guy”?
THIS GUY!
… it’s more of a visual joke…
Who has imagined that the NSA and the cable/phone companies are going to read this thread and block all our connections?
BuddyGott melissadonovan The man has a point
melissadonovan there are some awesome shows on youtube. Harry Potter 4000 was amazing!
melissadonovan It’s like you’re in my head.
melissadonovan Nah. They stopped watching when the show didn’t start on time.
Carl Sinclair melissadonovan xgranville BuddyGott Yes! Dodgeball. And pinball.
melissadonovan Carl Sinclair xgranville BuddyGott Woo hoo! Love pinball!
crissymossmelissadonovan For the thrice time…DOCTOR WHO!
BuddyGottmelissadonovan Sick burn, bro.
BuddyGott melissadonovan Oh yeah, I do still need to look into Dr. Who.
melissadonovanBuddyGott You should spend an irrelevant amount of time watching it.
melissadonovan BuddyGott I’ve watched almost 7 seasons in less than two months! Side note: I really need to get out more.
BuddyGott melissadonovan Carl Sinclair xgranville And skeeball. Or is it skeet ball? Whatever. That thing where you roll the ball up the thing and try to get it in the target holes.
BuddyGottmelissadonovan The Doctor will do that to you.
melissadonovan BuddyGott Carl Sinclair xgranville Skeeball. I challenge you to a match, Ms. Donovan!
melissadonovan BuddyGott Carl Sinclair xgranville This future is looking better and better
melissadonovanBuddyGottCarl SinclairxgranvilleSkeeball. It’s a major part of the movie Dogma, and our Lord God’s favorite game.
BuddyGott melissadonovan Carl Sinclair xgranville I accept! Be warned: I am a skeeball champion.
melissadonovan BuddyGott Carl Sinclair xgranville It’s on, Champ!
melissadonovanBuddyGottCarl Sinclairxgranville Am I the only thinking “Live stream?”
xgranville melissadonovan BuddyGott Carl Sinclair “Tonight on a Very Special Episode of Buddy’s Writing Show…”
BuddyGott xgranville melissadonovan Carl Sinclair “Scott will be attending this event.”
Give us lemons, we will make dinosaur erotica lemonade.
xgranville Goes down smooth…
xgranville That’s beautiful.
You owe us 7 minutes, Wade!!!
Here is the blog post http://fangsandlasers.wordpress.com/2014/01/16/why-does-net-neutrality-matter/
Here is the petition https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/restore-net-neutrality-directing-fcc-classify-internet-providers-common-carriers/5CWS1M4P
Entertain us, goddamn it!
I want to know when Pandora’s Gate is coming out!
BuddyGott Dance, monkeys!
BuddyGott We’ll just sit here in silence while the time passes.
Happy berfday, Wade
I share my birthday with Brittney Spears…so…yeah…kind of a big deal.
Surprise Party for Wade on the 25th! I’ll send out invites later!
maryeihla When the site launches – all will be revealed. The real question is : when does the new site launch?
I don’t have a specific date. It will be in February for book one. Specific dates are up in the air due to a few things out of my control.
You and everyone else.
Carl SinclairmaryeihlaI’m shaking in anti…..pation.
Queue the sound effects!
xgranville Carl Sinclair maryeihla Xavier quoting Rocky Horror. He’s cooler and cooler with each passing week.
BuddyGottxgranvilleCarl Sinclairmaryeihla I’m a pop culture addict and studied film for 3 years. I’ve seen waaay too many movies.
Since we’re self promoting, maybe Carl Sinclair and I should mention the disco album we’re putting out together.
Just talk more about The Silence in the Library.
That’s awesome about the interviews Trish. Congrats!
Carl SinclairSilence in the Library.
hang out?
I did three pushups last week to get in shape for the calendar.
Carl looks like Dirty Sanchez
crissymoss Yes!
afterparty hell yeah
BuddyGottcrissymoss I’m around for a hangout.
HANGOUT!!!
crissymoss I was BORN ready!
I feel like I’m eavesdropping… :p
BuddyGott WOO!
BrennaAubrey Welcome to the circus!
crissymoss Yes.
Buddy’s new show–Buddy’s Got It Going On
xgranville BrennaAubrey haha thanks
BrennaAubrey Hi Brenna!
BrennaAubrey xgranville Howdy
RemarkableReads That’s So Buddy
shroudbetween BrennaAubrey hi! I got the pingback and was a wee bit nervous about what the discussion would be 🙂
BrennaAubrey xgranville Brenna, Hangout afterwards if you want to join us.
Carl Sinclair BrennaAubrey xgranville hi!
BrennaAubrey xgranville We talked about you! We so would have had you on. You’re welcome to come on the after party hangout.
shroudbetweenRemarkableReads Leave It To Buddy
BuddyGott BrennaAubrey xgranville sure!
BrennaAubrey BuddyGott xgranville Cool!
Carl Sinclair BrennaAubrey xgranville you mean come on the video? I look awful LOL I’m in my jammies
BrennaAubrey Carl Sinclair xgranville We ALL are. You’ll fit right in.
shroudbetween BrennaAubrey Carl Sinclair xgranville LOL
BrennaAubrey Hey Brenna, that’s funny. I was going to email you and see if you’d like to be our guest and tell our listeners your story, instead of them getting it second hand from us. 🙂 Now I don’t have to email. lol
BrennaAubrey Carl Sinclair xgranville Yeah. Video hangout. Don’t worry about the jammies. It’s very informal.
BrennaAubrey Carl Sinclair xgranville That’s cool. We all look awful. And, weirdly, you would not be the first person in jammies. In fact half the time they don’t even wear pants!
shroudbetween BrennaAubrey Carl Sinclair xgranville ok let me brush my hair at least hahahaha
shroudbetweenBrennaAubreyCarl Sinclairxgranville We’re writers. Who are we trying to impress? Our computers?
As always, we have awesome fans. Thank you for listening and watching!
Carl Sinclair BrennaAubrey xgranville I think it must be a writer thing!
writerwade Thanks again Wade! Happy birthday!
xgranville shroudbetween RemarkableReads The Courtship of Buddy’s Father
Trish McCallan BrennaAubrey Sure I’d be glad to talk about it. 🙂
BrennaAubrey Carl Sinclair xgranville Can you send me your email address here? So I can invite you.
shroudbetweenxgranvilleRemarkableReads Iiiiit’s Saturday Night Live! With Buddy Gott, Buddy Gott, Buddy Gott, Buddy Gott, aaaand of course, your host….Buddy Gott!
So how does the afterparty work? I don’t have a headset but I have a macbook. Would that work?
BrennaAubrey shroudbetween ha! I’m sure we were nice to you. I missed parts of it.
BrennaAubrey shroudbetween Carl Sinclair xgranville Okay – sent you an invite on Hangouts/G+/Gmail.. something googlish.
thedavidwwrightmelissadonovan O_O Love this suggestion. 🙂
Carl Sinclair BrennaAubrey shroudbetween xgranville here’s where I prove my lameness…. LOL Have no idea where to accept that invite
BrennaAubrey Carl Sinclair shroudbetween xgranville Do you have Gmail? It may have sent a notification there? Or in your email. I stalked you down… in a nice way.
Carl Sinclair BrennaAubrey shroudbetween xgranville checking!
BrennaAubrey Carl Sinclair shroudbetween xgranville Do you have a google/g+/gmail account? If so. Email me at carlsinclairauthor.com.
BrennaAubrey Carl Sinclair shroudbetween xgranville carlsinclairauthor@gmail.com
Carl SinclairBrennaAubreyshroudbetweenxgranvilleI have G+
melissadonovan Carl Sinclair BrennaAubrey shroudbetween xgranville Invited.
Carl Sinclair BrennaAubrey xgranville Ya melissadonovan doesn’t wear pants ever.
Carl Sinclair BrennaAubrey shroudbetween xgranville I emailed you 🙂
BrennaAubrey Carl Sinclair shroudbetween xgranville looking now
Carl Sinclair melissadonovan BrennaAubrey shroudbetween xgranville could the invite have gone to spam or something? grrr
Late to the party as always,but great show.
Liam Kingman Late or early Liam we are always glad to have you. Thanks for watching.